Beginning with the premise that the attack must be taken seriously, Eric Havelock shows that Plato’s hostility is explained by the continued domination of the. PREFACE TO PLATO science and to morality: the major Greek poets from. Homer to Euripides must be excluded from the educational system of Greece. Preface to Plato has ratings and 7 reviews. Tim said: For those billions of you loosing sleep each night trying to figure out why Plato was so hostil.
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Preface to Plato had a profound impact almost immediately after publication, but an impact that was complex and inconsistent. Under the label of mimesis, Plato condemns the poetic process of emotional identification and the necessity of presenting content as a series of specific images in a continued narrative.
One of those books that I encountered too late. Our present business is to connect this discovery with that crisis in Greek culture which saw the replacement of an orally memorised tradition by a quite different system of instruction and education, and which therefore saw the Homeric state of mind give way to the Platonic.
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There doesn’t appear to be any strong contradiction between Homeric poetry and traditional morality. Although he was trained in the turn-of-theth-century Oxbridge tradition of classical studies, which saw Greek intellectual history as an unbroken chain of related ideas, Havelock broke radically with his own teachers and proposed an entirely new model for understanding the classical world, based on a sharp division between literature of the 6th and 5th centuries BC on the one hand, and that of the 4th on the other.
In a nonliterate culture, stored experience necessary to cultural stability had to be preserved as poetry in order to be memorized. Want to Read Currently Reading Read.
The Supreme Music is Philosophy. Under the label of mimesis, Plato condemns the poetic process of emotional identification and the necessity of presenting content as a series of specific images in a continued narrative. Plato was no mean poet himself, so what does this mean?
For Havelock, Plato’s rejection of poetry was merely the realisation of a cultural shift in which he was a participant.
Preface to Plato Eric A. The first, was the following review: Patrick rated it really liked it Jul 24, Two distinct phenomena are covered by the shift he observed in Greek culture at the end of the 5th century: Beginning with the premise that the attack must be taken seriously, Eric Havelock shows that Plato’s hostility is explained by the continued domination of the poetic tradition in contemporary Greek thought.
The Evolution of an Ideal Eric A. In Homer, Havelock argues, the order of ideas is associative and temporal.
Plato wanted to reform education, which meant replacing Homer with training in philosophy. Lists with This Book.
Preface to Plato
Literate Greece demanded, instead of poetic discourse, a vocabulary and a sentence structure both abstract and explicit in which experience could be described normatively and analytically: InHavelock moved to Cambridge, Massachusettsto take a position at Harvard Universitywhere he remained until The Presence of the Word.
University of Toronto Press, Plato attacks poets, particularly Homer, as the sole source of Greek moral and technical instruction–Mr.
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Account Options Sign in. Preface to Plato History of the Greek Mind. See and discover other items: Among classicists the response ranged from indifference to derision, with the majority simply questioning the details of Havelock’s history of literacy, pointing both to earlier instances of writing than Havelock thinks possible or to later instances of oral influence.
Write a customer review. I would like to know a bit more why Classists were less than enthusiastic about it. Plato is not Aristotle, and that’s a good thing.
Compelling argument focused on the transition from a society dominated by the oral transmission of knowledge to one where the written word is the principle vehicle of knowledge. At the same time that he was becoming increasingly havelockk and visible in politics, Havelock’s scholarly work was moving toward the concerns that would occupy him for the bulk of his career.
For Greeks, poetry meant Homer, and so Havelock argues we need to understand the role of Homer in traditional Greek society. He and Walter J.
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Just a moment while we sign you in to your Goodreads account. During World War IIHavelock moved away from the socialist organisations he had been associated with, and in was elected founding president of the Ontario Classical Association. Though the League for Social Reconstruction began as more of a discussion group than a political party, it became a force in Canadian politics by the mids.
Sold by ayvax and ships from Amazon Fulfillment. Contents Plato on Poetry. The ritualistic practices of classical Greeks may be obsolete from an empirical point of view, prrface not at all from an emotional one. The invention of the Greek havelocl, as opposed to all previous systems, including the Phoenicianconstituted an event in the history of human culture, the importance of which has not as yet been fully grasped.
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